Comments for School Bus Rapes Are Of No Concern To School Districts at http://rational-outrage.com , comment 1 to 28 out of 20 comments http://rational-outrage.com Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:14:06 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-63 The amount of training and FBI clearances a School Bus Driver has to go through is more than you know. He / she would have had to have seen it and would not ignore it. Bus drivers are trained to watch for odd behavior and drivers of special needs children take extra training. You mean to tell me that the bus driver never saw a thing in a year and a half and this just went on and on and on.. The mother suspected something?? The girl was afraid to tell her mother? The girl just got on the bus every day never throwing a fit never protesting. Never showing any signs of rape when she came home. Mother never noticing fluids in her panties. The mentally disable boy never told anyone and then admitted it all after a year and a half? Blame the mother for not getting to the bottom of her child mood change for year and a half. I don’t believe this story at all. - suer Sat, 31 May 2008 22:15:49 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-55 I say to you that that bus driver was negligent and should be held accountable for the crimes that took place on his bus. There is no way that man transported those kids twice a day, for an entire year and a half, without being made aware that something ungodly was taking place in the back seat of his vehicle. I just don't believe it. I don't believe a person can be anally raped "ten to fifteen times" on a vehicle with other people present without being noticed. School buses are school property, that bus driver was employed by the school system, and that school district should and will be held responsible for failing to protect that girl while ON SCHOOL PROPERTY. - Erin Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:48:52 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-49 A person that can't keep up with a half dozen or so kids on a bus, can't be trusted with a dog! The fact that these are "special needs" kids should give a reasonable person the vague idea that these kids might, golly, have "special needs"; therefore warranting some actual care. If this person has kids, they also know that sometimes something bad is happening when the kids are TOO quiet. For whatever reason, this person was negligent in their duty as a driver, parent/ parental figure, and/or human being. The school I'm not sure about, but I do know that negligence can be found regardless of any monetary damages. Possibly the school is being protected due to money issues, but responsibility still can be found without taking away funding for all the children's educations. How many of you total f***wits that think otherwise still complain when your magazine gets roughed-up in the mail? Someone's kid though you don't care 'cause you're not out 5 bucks. Guess we know what van some of you are riding to hell in. We don't want to hear you bitching about the trip there. - calls you out Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:29:11 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-43 There are laws that make school attendance compulsory. I am not familiar with the laws pertaining to busing, however, if schooling is compulsory and the buses are the property of the school system which compels attendance, one cannot help but conclude the school system is responsible for the safety of the children they compel to attend from the moment the step onto the bus until they are let off back home or near home. It's ridiculous for this school system to weasel out of responsibility. Even if they are not technically responsible, I'd think they'd been gravely concerned that any wrong-doing occurred at all on their property and would step to take responsibility to correct and treat the situation for humane reasons alone. Perhaps, they back away because there is little humanity in their minds and hearts to begin with. - Ricky Barnes Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:38:56 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-42 @ Jens I pray this doesn't happen to your child and anyone else who thinks this isn't important... somebody that hijacks a bus is a freak thing happening..but a little girl getting raped on a bus, I mean school 7 pass van for 2 years... we have to trust our schools that they will protect our children while we are there...and secondly, the school wants this to stay quiet...why so that people will not move their children out, or move into the disrict... = less tax dollars... - Ryan Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:43:40 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-41 Disgusts me how people wants to blame the school for what happens on their busses. If someone hijacks a schoolbus and shoots everyone on it, do you blame the school then too? The school gets money so they can give the children an education. If you want them to be constantly guarded as well, then cough up some huge amount of coin so they can hire an army of security guards. If on the other hand the bus had failing breaks due to bad maintainance and children got hurt because of that, then the school would be responsible. I do wonder how someone can get raped for a whole year without anyone noticing it on a bus though. - Jens Lidbom Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:42:49 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-40 for us that live outside of vegas...we see all types of commercials to get us there...maybe they don't run in vegas...but the thing is what happens in vegas stays in vegas...and I can see where the writer was going...and really it does fit...because the commercials are always about men and women cheating and doing things that they would normally do...and it stays there.. In Ohio, it is simply a case of what happens on the school bus, it stays on the school bus...as you can rest assure that the school district doesn't want to this to get out...so they would lose potential tax dollars because people look for housing around school districts are supposely doing great things and Jackson Township school district are hiding behind the law that was created to protect them... you can't sue Jackson Township School District in Ohio, but you could sue the city that it is in. Sometimes when they know they can get hit big time in the pocket it would make them up the security. and on a side note the bus driver got promoted after this...now he drives the big regular school buses. - Ryan Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:12:45 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-39 Because I have talked to Bernadine Wade several time since I first saw this on you tube when it had only 212 views and my initial response was to go beat the bus driver with my favorite baseball bat, on the school bus so that I could get away with it. Here is what I know about it... The child never told her mom, another student on the bus told the school, the girl was scared because she was the last drop off and the boy told her he would hurt her family, the mom suspected something but never thought that this could have been happening...what parent would? The mom adopted this little girl and her siblings at a very early age, the boy admitted it to the courts...plus has a history of a violent past and assaults, but the parents were not made aware of this... The bus ride to school and home was 45 minutes each way, he never penetrated her, well he put his ---- in her butt and her mouth, he would put his trench coat over them, what I find amusing is that, how come the bus driver couldn't look in his rear view mirror and see or at least hear what was going on. There is a March on the School Districts step in April...visit my blog below The Supreme Court ruled there is nothing they can do...no precedence has been set and denied the families request. The reason the school board and the bus company should be held responsible as we can not be there for our children...we put them on the bus, so then the bus driver should hold responsibility until he gets them to the school and then the school is responsible for keeping them safe until the ride home where now as parents we will ensure our kids safety. I also admonish any person who comment in a negative way if you have not watched the you tube video at least a couple of times. The mom is telling me the girl is still having trouble sleeping at night... IMO until the school district and/or the bus company that the school district hired to transport the kids to school are held responsible... they can continue to hide and will... that is the reason for the lawsuit...plus all the mental health counseling that will be require to help heal the wounds. www.gioperation.com Ryan Thanks for reading...I hope I cleared up some gaps in info - Ryan Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:02:24 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-38 Why should this get more coverage? so the country can lynch a 16 year old who is already screwed for the rest of this life? - fbekj Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:37:30 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-37 Keys_to_babel, your post seems to confirm the drivers position that it didn't happen rather than impugn him. This whole thing sounds fishy. It's special ed bus so BOTH kids have mental problems. There's not a single mention of physical evidence, just accusations and a confession by a mentally defficient kid. The driver says he never saw a thing so he thinks it didn't happen and your post is 100% consistent with that, it's the article that suggests the driver has no ability to see the back seat and that this could have happened for 1.5 years. It's nonsense and the driver's employers agree t's nonsense. He'd have to have seen something. People in the USA who work with special ed kids take a huge risk because of this nonsense, crazy parents who cut tales from whole cloth and some authorities who'll take the whole thing literally without considering the source or plausibility. The author of this trash should be ashamed, it's not even remotely credible. Mean time the parents of the real victim here (the mentally disabled 16 year old), get sued on top of everything else they have to endure in life as people trash their son. - gus Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:12:51 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-36 The bus driver did not notice what was going on in a 7 passenger vehicle. Give me abreak. I had a school Bus driver that would know what was going on the back seat of a 30 passenger bus because he paid attention. This went on for a 1.5 years and the bus driver didn't notice..... Come on.... http://hopemarin.wordpress.com/ - Keys To Babel Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:47:53 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-34 Americans love to swallow pain and misery. I bet this american family will just take it and not do shit about it. hahaha. America is full of violence these days because Americans put up with it. If Americans didn't put up with violence, they would have sent the niggers back to Africa a long time ago. - Gss Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:06:03 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-32 What a ridiculously out of place and trite intro to this article. You could have put it over the top by prepending the words "They say that..." Let's fucking refer to Vegas in the context of school bus rape. - Dave Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:53:46 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-31 I can't imagine that anyone would ever suggest that the school should have guessed that the boy was a rapist and not let him on the bus--although depending upon the nature of his special needs, it may have been inappropriate to have him in the setting he was in. The issue is that the girl was REPEATEDLY sexually assaulted on the bus in the presence of the driver and nothing was done to prevent it or put a stop to it. I'm sure everyone would agree with the point you make, but it has no relevance to this case. If you sincerely believe that an adult charged with the care and supervision of children has no liability if he sits by and allows a seven-year-old child to be repeatedly sexually assaulted...well, there's no reasonable end to this sentence, is there? Because no rational human being could believe that. - Tiffany Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:29:08 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-30 I'm sorry this is why the majority of the US are clean stupid. SUE THE SCHOOL?!?!? It was clearly not the schools fault that this person was there on the bus. They cannot be held responsible for not pre-emptively dis-allowing this person to be on the bus becuase they thought he might rape! hell his parents would sue them at the very thought of this! What has happened here is tragic and I sincerely hope justice is brought. But NOT against the school. It isn't their fault that they allowed a student who became a rapist in. I hope justice is brought against the person who committed the crime. Every single bad person started somewhere. No matter where they showed how evil they can be, this doesn't mean take it out on the people that allowed them the liberty of showing it. Stop being so fecking stoopid. - cynapse Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:22:34 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-29 Ok the content of the news story is good but was a drop intro really that appropriate for a hard news story like this. Surely it would have been better to begin with 'In Ohio, a seven-year-old girl was repeatedly molested, raped and sodomized over a period of at least a year and a half.' Starting there would have made a much better article and if you really wanted to include the Las Vegas bit that should have been at the bottom. Back on topic I'm suprised the bus driver never noticed what was going though I suspect they did and they are merely covering their and their employers back. - Luke Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:58:20 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-28 I get that you guys feel that Vegas is being maligned, but can we focus? It's an old saying that's been part of a lot of jokes and intimations for a lot longer than this site has even been in existence...the point here is a little more significant than whether or not a popular reference is denigrating to a chunk of land. - Tiffany Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:12:26 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-27 The beginning of this article sounds like it was written by somebody who clearly has never been to Las Vegas and doesn't understand the city's campaign slogan. Gerri, the next time you try to write an article, it'd be best to make an introduction that makes sense and is relevant to the real topic at hand. - Mark Jacobs Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:25:51 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-26 @anon, L.L Woodard "He also did not attempt to defend himself in a civil lawsuit brought against him by the victim’s mother." - Michael Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:11:10 +0100 http://rational-outrage.com/200803108/legal-outrage/school-bus-rapes.html#comment-25 The loss of responsibility for behaviors and actions of those who have been trusted to protect and represent us has become, well non existant! From local to federal Government our rights have been reduced to allowing the continued rape of a child, was there a Van driver and what was that idiot doing, WATCHING!!!!, afraid to get involved? fear of law suite? How is something like this even possible!!!!!!And I saw the familly trees of all the dummies running for president but nothing on this????!! - greg Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:04:53 +0100